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On Google

I have some thoughts on Google that I’ve been mulling over ever since Google+ opened up. I don’t put a lot of opinion postings here because I normally put them on my personal site, but whatever; this is pretty relevant and who’s going to stop me? That’s right, here we go…

Some of my favorite people to speak with about the Web are, ironically enough, non-techies. They’re just normal users, friends, my parents, whomever. Sometimes I just sit and watch them use Facebook (I bet it’s creepy as hell). They give a real insight into the future of the Web; if these people don’t get it, no level of fist banging by “us” is going to make something successful.

We can all see what Google did with Google+: they mashed up the models of Facebook and Twitter and rolled in some Google services that already exist. Facebook with the overall concept and Twitter with the friending model (circles). Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s a great effort and I applaud them for continuously trying to break into the social networking scene but the amount of time and effort they’re putting into the weakest part of their portfolio is mind-boggling. It’s an area that really doesn’t advance the Web at all. Not pushing any boundaries, just re-packaging something someone else had success in.

Google has some of the greatest services on the Web: Docs, Calendar, Gmail, Reader, Maps… the list goes on. Maybe focus on some of those?

I guess I’d like to see some advances in their strengths rather than a continuous focus in the social atmosphere. Breaking down Google +, we have:

  • A profile
  • Pictures (picassa)
  • Circles
  • Posts
  • Games
  • Huddles

I will say that I love being able to have group video conferences (huddle), it’s pretty awesome. I also like the idea behind circles (but dislike the implementation).

Most users don’t care or understand the circles concept, but other than that stuff, what’s the benefit to switching over from Facebook for most people? I don’t see it. It’s a lot of duplicated services: posting, pictures, friending, games, profiles no one reads, etc.

Whether the services over on Google+ are better or not is kind of a moot point because, at their core, both Facebook and Google+ (and Twitter) are broadcasting services. We use them to say “hey look what I did here”. And that’s totally fine. I’m not judging anyone who does that all, I do it myself every time I upload a photo to Facebook or Tweet something out. But the main crutch of a broadcasting service is it’s users and the users just flat-out do not exist in Google+ right now. I don’t see a clear user migration path from Facebook (or Twitter) over to Google+ especially for non-Gmail users.

Yahoo Fantasy Sports

On getting non-Gmail users over to Google+… I think Yahoo Fantasy Sports is a great model to look at for something like this.

I have a Yahoo account. The only thing I use it for is Fantasy Football (I really don’t use Flickr). Why? Because they produced the best (by a mile) service on the Web for that niche. Honestly, no one’s even close, its at a point where I won’t even play anywhere else. I’ve actually had the pleasure of sitting down with their team of developers. They ripped apart my JavaScript worse than anyone I’ve ever seen. It was impressive and humbling to scroll through hundreds of lines of code and have someone point out every missing semi-colon. They’re the best group of UI/Front-end people I’ve ever had the pleasure of speaking with and it really shows in the product(s).

If Google wants users to migrate to +, they need to do what Yahoo! sports did and not only be the best, but be the best by such a large margin that if doesn’t make sense for anyone to use anything else. It takes time, but it can be done. And they’ll need to take some more risks.

Taking on a giant: users

I’ve gone on the record a few times saying that I don’t think anyone is going to take down Twitter or Facebook with a similar application. I think we’ve evolved past that. Looking at all the “Twitter” killers that have come along, many of them were better services, I really liked Plurk; amazing interface. But no one used it. Why? Because no one was on it. Sounds circular, I know. But like I mentioned ^ up there, these are broadcasting services and when there isn’t anyone to broadcast to, what’s the point?

I do think both Facebook and Twitter will fall at some point, I don’t know to whom, but I do know that it won’t be Google+ in it’s current state. There’s nothing over there, the hype is gone and the users are bored (dazed) and confused.

Also, I think they should bring back Wave, it had a lot of potential, just a little too much noise. It could certainly be massaged into something awesome over time.

I’m really wondering what people think about this stuff, so let me know. Tell me I’m wrong.

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Comments (7)

  1. Hill says:

    Ok, I’ll bite. You’re wrong. Google+ is going to eventually become a major player in the social space. The key is the over saturation of Android devices which will facilitate the move to social prominence. With each Android device, a new Google user is born so more and more Google accounts are being created. At the moment, these new users have not translated to Google+ users but give them time. After someone shows them how easy photos can be shared (and now edited) or the awesomeness of hangouts, the users will grow. Currently, all of the top tech people are the only participants in daily chatter, but like Gmail, Twitter, and yes, Facebook in a few years Google+ will gain the audience to rival its competitors.

    • Tim says:

      I’ll take that bet!

    • bgreater says:

      I for one don’t particularly like the photo sync… It was kinda nice at first but Data rates and confidential photo issues made me think twice… Not to mention it sucked when I was actually trying to download some app update but had to wait 3-4 times as long b/c I was “uploading” a few pics I had just taken… Ended up turning it off…

      Also I think Tim’s point was making the competition obsolete… You current points don’t really make me think Google is doing enough to obsolete FB or Twitter… And last time I checked I couldn’t even integrate my feeds in to Google+…

    • Tim says:

      I actually disabled photo sync as well

    • Hill says:

      You’re not going to make the competition obsolete. If that was the case, Myspace would be completely dead. I never experienced the photo sync issues that you mentioned which I agree sucks. I don’t think its an overnight thing, but I feel that with the early tech adoption and Google’s willingness to keep improving the product means that it will be a force in the coming year or two.

  2. bgreater says:

    Tim, you nailed it… I was all about the Google+ UI and the additional interactions that I could have with my new Google+ friends… But, there was no way to integrate FB and Google and I certainly don’t want to update both!!! So FB wins b/c I have 500+ friends there and only around 60 on Google+…

    They have to innovate for the average web user not just the “power” user….

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